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« Reply #15 on: Jan 28th, 2018, 3:19pm »
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Yes, TRI3D3 seems slow to me.

I can't run the other program, asks for 3DR.DLL, I don't have it. Looked on the internet without succes.
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 29th, 2018, 1:26pm »
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By default, TRI3D3 uses a timer to rotate a cube.
One square loop should have the greatest effect.

I can't remember what Intel called those files. huh
Since GTWI4DRD1 requires the Intel 3DR files, I added them to the game's zip file.
I only updated the zip file for the 16-bit version of GTWI4DRD1.

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« Reply #17 on: Jan 30th, 2018, 10:16am »
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Thanks, I copied the exe to a folder with the dll's and the program works with S3 Virge ! Nice, those rotating coloured rectangles. The lower triangle moves with the mouse position. Whats the game?

Later I will try the S3 Trio64v+, but first I have to repair the dishwasher. An extreme complicated project (no service manual available).
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 30th, 2018, 1:34pm »
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Updated GTWI4DRD1 description:
http://win3x.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Freeware&action=display&num=1502136717
Does the audio work for you?

For many older computers, colorful rotating squares are a difficult task.

Onboard GD5434 (Compaq 66mhz DX2) (139x139 image)
256 color : 425,455,450,457,33,2

Onboard PCI GD5430 (Pentium)(139x139 image)
256 color:437,459,449,487,34,2
high color:248,256,251,272,31,2
True color:96,91,93,91,12,2


I wish you luck investigating the convoluted nodes and widgets of your dishwasher.
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 31st, 2018, 6:22pm »
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Would be nice if there exists some ADSHWSH.EXE smiley

It is a complicated apparatus, I had to learn that even the pressure in the stream is measured. If to low, then no heating. Luckily enough I found the problem with help of an Ohm-meter and visual inspection. But it was a hell of a job.

I tried to find the Mod-players you mentioned, but no luck, even with archive.org. Mod4Win plays your Mod's very well, but the game said that there is a registration problem and refused to play the music with Mod4Win. Inside Total Commander mod's are automatically opened with Mod4Win, and with Regedit the registration of the filetype seems okay. Any idea's?

Nice game, runs with S3Trio64v+ too. cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 31st, 2018, 7:33pm »
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I congratulate you for a job well done.

I don't think the the registry affects MCI components.
The system.ini has a special section for MCI devices.


I've adjusted the 16-bit download description at GTW.
https://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/4781

Back when I made that game, GTW was still an HTTP event.
Since GTW has closed, you are welcome to release games here.

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« Reply #21 on: Feb 1st, 2018, 3:53pm »
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Sound works great with WMidas! Nice music!

The MCI-registration in system.ini doesn't disturb opening MOD-files with Mod4Win. Best of both worlds. cheesy

I found a Mod4Win MCI-driver (2.40 beta). Will test too.
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 1st, 2018, 5:51pm »
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I'm glad to hear that it was operational on your hardware.

Intel's 3DR was too much for my old ISA hardware.
These video cards helped create GTWI4DRD1:

(win3x 139x139)
PCI ATI Expert@Work (3D RAGE PRO TURBO)
(15-bit color) 879,848,894,848,92,4
(24-bit color)634,644,610,644,61,4

AGP RIVA 128ZX
(15-bit color)1015,1107,1022,1023,358,6
(24-bit color)539,486,486,487,292,6

Onboard Intel 82845G
VGA.drv 836,840,839,842,107,6
SVGA256 1449,1462,1543,1461,86,2


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« Reply #23 on: Feb 2nd, 2018, 4:16pm »
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Interesting. I saw the same colors, even in higher color modes.

In your game, the gun-triangle seems to follow the mouse slowly, especially in a maximized window. Can be my S3Trio64v+....

Today I tried the Win4Mod MCI-driver 2.40 beta. Your mod-files sound more natural to me with this driver, than with WMidas. Even slightly better than with Win4Mod player 2.30 (no MCI-driver available for this version, as far as I know).

In Mediaplayer one of these MCI-drivers can be chosen and their sound compared.

I am using still Realtek ALC662 with latest HDA2.DLL. cool
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 2nd, 2018, 7:05pm »
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Thinking that the program might run on 386 or 486 hardware, I chose a rather slow timer.
The entire game is rather slow. sad

If I had chosen a fast computer with a
PCI Virge VX (STB Velocity)
(256 color)906,986,932,932,265,3
(high color)491,527,500,527,208,3
or a
Geforce4 MX 440 AGP8x
(SVGA256)1768,1780,1878,1778,50,2
(VGA)535,535,535,565,63,5
, I would have aimed for a faster pace.

Your computer can probably handle 3D shading without hardware acceleration.
http://turkeys4me.byethost4.com/files/TRI3D4.7z (added new objects)

Although Midas's maxium is 44.1khz, Mod4win can output 48khz.
From Mod4win settings, first select the HDA driver as output and then select 48khz 16-bit quality.

What sort of video hardware would you target for a trainwreck?
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 4th, 2018, 08:40am »
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Hello Watler,

I just downloaded TRI3D4, I will test soon.

I was busy getting Internet with LAN on Windows 3.1, using Microsoft Network Client version 3.0 for MS-DOS. Very, very heavy, but I succeeded, with help of the few sources I could find! I am writing this message with IE5/16-bit, only scripting is bad with your forum.

You said Win4Mod can use 48kHz sampling, can HDA2.DLL get this sampling rate too? I thougt MME-drivers are maximized to 44.1kHz.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 4th, 2018, 7:16pm »
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Does the win32s version of TIMEBLT work for you?
(Win3.1 139x139 image)
onboard Geforce 7025 :
VGA: 520,520,549,520,58,9
SVGA256: 1613,1616,1615,1615,41,3

A "square" shaded with 512 triangles might look better.
http://turkeys4me.byethost4.com/files/TRI3D5.7z

Glad to hear of your success.
Sorry about the script errors, the Conforums web programmers must be having some problems.
If you find any win3x compatible free web hosts, please let me know..

I've done little with networks.
Although I lean toward programming, I can create new sections and topics for things you wish to explain,ask-about,discuss or document.

Both Windows 3.1 and HDA2.DLL can play 48khz audio.
(What's an MME-driver?)



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I will test both versions, and TIMEBLT for Win32s too. I just recently managed to install Win32s, until then always SHARE.EXE compatibility-problems.

MME means Multi Media Extensions, so mmsystem. Many sources are saying that there is downsampling to 44.1kHz when a driver is using mmsystem. But I couldn't find any Microsoft documentation on this subject.
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« Reply #28 on: Feb 6th, 2018, 6:16pm »
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New tests: Windows 3.1; GF7950GT, Syncmaster 245B 1920x1200
Time.exe with Win32s
VGA 600x480 256 colors 139x139: (676;703;683;676;80;4) Window fit to image

I also tested tri3d4/5.

tri3d4 works very well, with loop solid figures are rotating really fast. 3D-button doesn't have any function.

tri3d5: only cube3d.exe is working, but cannot be closed. Finally program crashes without error message. cube3d2.exe gives while running first and third time "Invalid floating point operation error", but inbetween okay. 3D-button starts image.


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« Reply #29 on: Feb 6th, 2018, 7:19pm »
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Thank you for testing TRI3d, I'll try to fix the errors.
I don't see any errors...
Perhaps there was a download or 7zip error?
Click loop again to disable loop.(then you can close)
Selecting a new 3d shape type should start animation also.


You can use the volume control program included with hda2 to view the formats that each wave driver supports. (use the spin edit to select different drivers)

MME appears to refer to Windows 3.0
Are you tring to make real mode win16 audio drivers?
Maby you are interested in software resampling?


(win3x,139x139 image)
VIA Chrome9 HC IGP:
(SVGA256)2171,2066,2066,2068,56,4
( VGA )541,543,573,542,70,6

I'll be busy networking for a while.
Do you have any more video cards to compare? grin
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